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New Hybrids Are Here
Topic Started: Aug 27 2008, 04:08 PM (15,861 Views)
Van2006ko	Jul 25 2009, 08:20 PM Post #496
Foamer Posts: 2,535 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: February 16, 2005	Nabi60SFW9620 Jul 25 2009, 07:36 PM I rode 8287 on the 27 today. It was nicer inside then the 2008 New Flyer DE40LFs. The ceiling piece between the windows and the ceiling are gray on the 2009 DE40LFs and white on the rest of the New Flyers. I do hope Baltimores next DE40LFRs are the same way. The interior lighting. I cant tell if the lights are LEDs but I somewhat suspect they are LEDs. They are LED lighting, shocked no one else picked up on that little tidbit. The interior seems to be designed more towards the restyled body new flyers versus the old styles which we are so used to. Edited by Van2006ko, Jul 25 2009, 08:21 PM.



Septa_kid	Jul 25 2009, 08:28 PM Post #497
flxie!!!! Posts: 2,043 Group: Members Member #2,467 Joined: March 31, 2008	IkarusFan Jul 25 2009, 07:46 PM Nabi60SFW9620 Jul 25 2009, 07:36 PM I rode 8287 on the 27 today. It was nicer inside then the 2008 New Flyer DE40LFs. The ceiling piece between the windows and the ceiling are gray on the 2009 DE40LFs and white on the rest of the New Flyers. I do hope Baltimores next DE40LFRs are the same way. The interior lighting. I cant tell if the lights are LEDs but I somewhat suspect they are LEDs. DE41LF. No offense. or DE40LF Low Profile, depends on what you want to call it. I say both



Septa_kid	Jul 25 2009, 08:30 PM Post #498
flxie!!!! Posts: 2,043 Group: Members Member #2,467 Joined: March 31, 2008	TransitChuckG Jul 19 2009, 09:51 AM Quote: on friday while i was headed to work at 69th st the P&w car house where i work i spotted 8288he 65 block 5201 at lansdowne and haverford so allegheny now has hybrids Thanks for the news. I'll be on the 104 today, I'll see if there are any hybrids today on that line or what I can see of the 123. 5201 is an Allegheny block, not a Victory block. Victory hasn't gotten any 2009 hybrids.... yet suspicious stare



Nabi60SFW9620	Jul 26 2009, 06:33 AM Post #499
Foamer Posts: 2,143 Group: Members Member #10 Joined: February 21, 2005	Technically they are DE40LFs and not DE41LFs. Although some angles of the latest DEs look like they are DE41LFs and others it seems they are the same exact length as the rest of the New Flyers. Plus all manufacturers offer the ceiling piece between the ceilings and the window panes in gray or white. They may be standard in gray on Gilligs. Maybe for NABIs and Orions. And I do hope they are standard on New Flyers so Baltimore MTA next DE40LFRs can have the same ceilings as SEPTAs. Since their DE60LFRs have the white piece inbetween the ceilings and the windows and their LED interior lights have the same covering as SEPTAs NABIs have. The plain white covering where you cant even see the lights and those are LEDs. Hopefully Baltimore MTAs DE40LFRs will be the same length as SEPTAs latest New Flyers. Even thought Baltimores are the restyled end caps with a rear HVAC unit.



Van2006ko	Jul 26 2009, 06:50 AM Post #500
Foamer Posts: 2,535 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: February 16, 2005	Septa_kid Jul 25 2009, 08:30 PM TransitChuckG Jul 19 2009, 09:51 AM Quote: on friday while i was headed to work at 69th st the P&w car house where i work i spotted 8288he 65 block 5201 at lansdowne and haverford so allegheny now has hybrids Thanks for the news. I'll be on the 104 today, I'll see if there are any hybrids today on that line or what I can see of the 123. 5201 is an Allegheny block, not a Victory block. Victory hasn't gotten any 2009 hybrids.... yet suspicious stare He knows that



Septa_kid	Jul 26 2009, 01:44 PM Post #501
flxie!!!! Posts: 2,043 Group: Members Member #2,467 Joined: March 31, 2008	Van2006ko Jul 26 2009, 06:50 AM Septa_kid Jul 25 2009, 08:30 PM TransitChuckG Jul 19 2009, 09:51 AM Quote: on friday while i was headed to work at 69th st the P&w car house where i work i spotted 8288he 65 block 5201 at lansdowne and haverford so allegheny now has hybrids Thanks for the news. I'll be on the 104 today, I'll see if there are any hybrids today on that line or what I can see of the 123. 5201 is an Allegheny block, not a Victory block. Victory hasn't gotten any 2009 hybrids.... yet suspicious stare He knows that I knew that he knew that... :$ :$ :$



Septa_kid	Jul 26 2009, 01:50 PM Post #502
flxie!!!! Posts: 2,043 Group: Members Member #2,467 Joined: March 31, 2008	Nabi60SFW9620 Jul 26 2009, 06:33 AM Hopefully Baltimore MTAs DE40LFRs will be the same length as SEPTAs latest New Flyers. Even thought Baltimores are the restyled end caps with a rear HVAC unit. It Depends on whether or not they get the Low Profile roof thingy. For some reason it makes the bus bigger. But It doesn't just apply to the LF models. In fact, this developed from the LFR model, and SEPTA somehow got NFI to produce a LF version.... big mistake if you ask me....



Nabi60SFW9620	Jul 26 2009, 02:04 PM Post #503
Foamer Posts: 2,143 Group: Members Member #10 Joined: February 21, 2005	Baltimores next DE40LFRs are definetely having the low profile roof cap since not all 4 bases can fit the original New Flyer hybrid roof cap. So all newer New Flyer DEs in Baltimore will have the low profile roof cap. And one thing that I feel makes SEPTAs New Flyer interiors feel smaller then Bmore MTAs is the black box on the front left wheel well. Baltimores are the same box as what SEPTAs older hybrids have. I just either have to get a chance to sit in the back seat on the right side of either SEPTAs older hybrids or Bmore MTAs 06000s to see for sure that the interior is the same exact length as Bmores D40LFs. I think all New Flyer 40LF(R)s have the same interior length. Sometimes MTAs D40LFs look to be the standard length and sometimes they look longer then the standard length. The Low Profile roofcaps are available on all New Flyer hybrids. CTAs DE60LFs are the old style and they have the low profile roof caps. So SEPTA isnt the only TA to get them on the old style New Flyers. And if CTA gets DE40LFs they will also have low profile roof caps. But SEPTA happened to be the only TA to get rooftop HVACs on DE40LFs. Edited by Nabi60SFW9620, Jul 26 2009, 02:05 PM.



Septa_kid	Jul 26 2009, 02:55 PM Post #504
flxie!!!! Posts: 2,043 Group: Members Member #2,467 Joined: March 31, 2008	SEPTA wasn't the only TA to do it on a LF model, just the first. SEPTA is the reason why the Low Profile is even available on a LF model



Nabi60SFW9620	Jul 26 2009, 03:29 PM Post #505
Foamer Posts: 2,143 Group: Members Member #10 Joined: February 21, 2005	The main reason the low profile roof caps were invented is because not all transit bases can fit the high profile roof caps. Like Baltimore MTA cannot fit the high profile roof cap into Kirk Ave and Eastern. So they are getting future orders with low profile roof caps. And I think Edmonton was first to get the low profile roof caps. Edited by Nabi60SFW9620, Jul 26 2009, 03:31 PM.



Septa_kid	Jul 26 2009, 03:33 PM Post #506
flxie!!!! Posts: 2,043 Group: Members Member #2,467 Joined: March 31, 2008	Nabi60SFW9620 Jul 26 2009, 03:29 PM And I think Edmonton was first to get the low profile roof caps. you might be right, but that would be for LFR, LF is another story Edited by Septa_kid, Jul 26 2009, 03:39 PM.



CVPI19	Aug 4 2009, 04:50 PM Post #507
Allegheny,and Midvale PTV Leader & Correspondent Posts: 257 Group: Members Member #77 Joined: March 2, 2006	I spotted 8285 on the 48 today and its sign had Front-Markt instead of Front-Market like it would with the Neoplan AN460 articulated buses and the New Flyer D40LFs.



NewFlyerman5764	Oct 3 2009, 07:05 PM Post #508
5061 needs to be retired it keeps stalking me Posts: 34 Group: Members Member #2,715 Joined: August 19, 2009	spotted 8331 off duty running down bridge street



SouthernSeptaRida215	Oct 8 2009, 09:09 PM Post #509
Southern Depot PTV Co-Leader & Correspondent. Posts: 386 Group: Members Member #2,708 Joined: July 5, 2009	8333 was on Rt. 5 yesterday Block 2251. It didn't say route 5, It said SEPTA but you get the idea Attached to this post: 8333_Blk._2251.jpg (650 KB) Edited by SouthernSeptaRida215, Oct 8 2009, 09:10 PM.



joechopchop	Nov 11 2009, 04:00 PM Post #510
Advanced Transit Fan Posts: 380 Group: Members Member #19 Joined: February 28, 2005	I know it has been a while since the last post, but 8334 is on the 88.



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