Champion Buses Pulled Out Of Frontier

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Champion Buses Pulled Out Of Frontier
Topic Started: Jun 22 2009, 08:46 AM (536 Views)
FRONT5151	Jun 22 2009, 08:46 AM Post #1
Advanced Transit Fan Posts: 156 Group: Members Member #2,520 Joined: April 26, 2008	I am getting word that the buses have been sent to germantown for storage and that they are going to be sold they don't fit into septa big picture not suitable for heavy transit use and frontier has most of victory's eldogs to replace them. Edited by FRONT5151, Jun 22 2009, 08:47 AM.



joechopchop	Jun 22 2009, 11:32 AM Post #2
Advanced Transit Fan Posts: 380 Group: Members Member #19 Joined: February 28, 2005	FINALLY! Those buses needed to go anyways.



buswizard	Jun 22 2009, 01:10 PM Post #3
^^^ My sister needs a copy Posts: 1,647 Group: Members Member #2,659 Joined: September 22, 2008	IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!!I like the lawn mowers better



Tritransit Area	Jun 22 2009, 01:13 PM Post #4
Transit Enthusiast Posts: 2,243 Group: Admin Member #4 Joined: February 17, 2005	Sigh...the Champions were much better suited for the service than the Fords that SEPTA/Krapfs insists on running. I'm really curious about this, because this doesn't make sense. The buses I rode, as rocky as they are, weren't falling apart. Did something come up during the overhaul? They really only had 2 more years to go...in fact, if they get rid of them now, they'd have to pay back the FTA, as they are 7 year Altoona Tested...provided they were purchased with federal funds. But Front5151, your word is correct; Frontier is devoid of the Champions, and they've been replaced by Victory's junky Dorados. I saw 4551 on the 129 today as well as 4546 on another route. I also saw 4556 parked at the Philadelphia Interchange of the PA Turnpike...for about 2 hours. I dunno what's going on with that bus, but it has been a Frontier for a while now. Edited by Tritransit Area, Jun 22 2009, 01:15 PM.



TRANSIT_FREAK	Jun 22 2009, 04:23 PM Post #5
Simpsonized! Posts: 2,647 Group: Members Member #865 Joined: August 2, 2007	Damn! Get your pics.



Septa_kid	Jun 22 2009, 05:38 PM Post #6
flxie!!!! Posts: 2,040 Group: Members Member #2,467 Joined: March 31, 2008	so... i got the last pic of a Champion in service.... that's gonna suck when they go, i mean, the El'D's are okay, but the Champions were sooooo much more fun to ride



buswizard	Jun 22 2009, 06:25 PM Post #7
^^^ My sister needs a copy Posts: 1,647 Group: Members Member #2,659 Joined: September 22, 2008	Septa_kid Jun 22 2009, 05:38 PM so... i got the last pic of a Champion in service.... that's gonna suck when they go, i mean, the El'D's are okay, but the Champions were sooooo much more fun to ride The reverse for me.



Tritransit Area	Jun 22 2009, 06:56 PM Post #8
Transit Enthusiast Posts: 2,243 Group: Admin Member #4 Joined: February 17, 2005	buswizard Jun 22 2009, 06:25 PM Septa_kid Jun 22 2009, 05:38 PM so... i got the last pic of a Champion in service.... that's gonna suck when they go, i mean, the El'D's are okay, but the Champions were sooooo much more fun to ride The reverse for me. Ditto



ctrabs74	Jun 22 2009, 09:02 PM Post #9
Advanced Transit Fan Posts: 710 Group: Members Member #7 Joined: February 20, 2005	Tritransit Area Jun 22 2009, 06:56 PM buswizard Jun 22 2009, 06:25 PM Septa_kid Jun 22 2009, 05:38 PM so... i got the last pic of a Champion in service.... that's gonna suck when they go, i mean, the El'D's are okay, but the Champions were sooooo much more fun to ride The reverse for me. Ditto Good riddance to the Frontier Chumps... I won't miss them on the 92 (unfortunately, I'm stuck with them on the 314). It'll be interesting to see what happens when the Chumps are eventually pulled from the contractor routes...



CACrafter88bk2504	Jun 22 2009, 09:04 PM Post #10
Transit Historian Posts: 1,324 Group: Members Member #51 Joined: November 10, 2005	That's great. Still, the number of small buses @ Frontier seems to balance out with the number of 40 footers. Improvement is needed. Needed to the point where Frontier doesn't have any small buses.



Mark	Jun 22 2009, 10:09 PM Post #11
Advanced Transit Fan Posts: 436 Group: Members Member #6 Joined: February 18, 2005	If SEPTA doesn't want the Champions, then send them over to Bur-Link over here in NJ. This system needs some type of REAL buses, not those GOD-AWFUL Blue-Birds and those para-transit vehicles that have all the comfort of riding the back of a pick-up truck. Maybe they could increase ridership with some better-looking buses.



TRANSIT_FREAK	Jun 22 2009, 10:56 PM Post #12
Simpsonized! Posts: 2,647 Group: Members Member #865 Joined: August 2, 2007	SEPTA just can not sell them off like that. Cornwell Heights need them and the contracted routes up in Paoli. Why even overhaul them when they might be sold. Plus Germantown should just keep them for the 310, and some LUCY runs. Hell, give the 35 to germantown and they can run with the Champs.



natton	Jun 23 2009, 12:18 AM Post #13
Occasional Rider Posts: 16 Group: Members Member #2,672 Joined: December 25, 2008	I'm thrilled they are gone as a frontier operator. They had exhaust leaks and were a pain when it came to picking up a wheelchair no knelling funcution either. Guess for me its memories and my key I still have



Tritransit Area	Jun 23 2009, 12:34 PM Post #14
Transit Enthusiast Posts: 2,243 Group: Admin Member #4 Joined: February 17, 2005	TRANSIT_FREAK Jun 22 2009, 10:56 PM SEPTA just can not sell them off like that. Cornwell Heights need them and the contracted routes up in Paoli. Why even overhaul them when they might be sold. Plus Germantown should just keep them for the 310, and some LUCY runs. Hell, give the 35 to germantown and they can run with the Champs. I ASSURE you that the 310 needs buses bigger than the Champions. If you ever see rush hour 310 buses, particularly the 8:29 AM run from Willow Grove Mall (starts from the station) and the bus that pulls into Willow Grove around 5:20-ish, you will see what I mean. The 35 should be a G-town route...I imagine the union issues prevail in this case, though....



ctrabs74	Jun 23 2009, 11:20 PM Post #15
Advanced Transit Fan Posts: 710 Group: Members Member #7 Joined: February 20, 2005	Tritransit Area Jun 23 2009, 12:34 PM The 35 should be a G-town route...I imagine the union issues prevail in this case, though.... Which is why that will never happen, even though they're both part of TWU 234.



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