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Bus schedules effective 9/5/09
Topic Started: Aug 25 2009, 09:30 PM (182 Views)
rider65	Aug 25 2009, 09:30 PM Post #1
Advanced Transit Fan Posts: 445 Group: Members Member #52 Joined: November 15, 2005	In South Jersey effective 9/5: 403 - will no longer run into Philadelphia. Service between Camden and Turnersville. 405 - end of detour routing 407 - resume regular route 408 - new routing in Milville 551 - back to hourly mid day service



ctrabs74	Aug 26 2009, 07:46 PM Post #2
Advanced Transit Fan Posts: 710 Group: Members Member #7 Joined: February 20, 2005	I don't understand why NJT chose the 403 to cut back from Center City to Camden. That route seems to carry a lot of people over the bridge. They should choose a route like the 401/402/410/412 (at least one of those routes, not all four) or even the 406. I'd also like to know NJT's reasoning for this scheme, but that's all but impossible since they don't hold public hearings on these routing changes like virtually every other transit system...



philabob1	Aug 31 2009, 06:02 PM Post #3
Advanced Transit Fan Posts: 463 Group: Members Member #640 Joined: June 15, 2007	I guess the 403 riders are getting their last treats this week - saw 7515 on the line on the Market St leg of the loop at 5:30. In my sightings of this service, it's almost always a Flx Metro.



philabob1	Sep 3 2009, 06:38 AM Post #4
Advanced Transit Fan Posts: 463 Group: Members Member #640 Joined: June 15, 2007	ctrabs74 Aug 26 2009, 07:46 PM I don't understand why NJT chose the 403 to cut back from Center City to Camden. That route seems to carry a lot of people over the bridge. They should choose a route like the 401/402/410/412 (at least one of those routes, not all four) or even the 406. I'd also like to know NJT's reasoning for this scheme, but that's all but impossible since they don't hold public hearings on these routing changes like virtually every other transit system... One would think 405 would be a good candidate for cutting back as it was a NJ-only route for quite a while, and 407 would easily fill in on the Federal St/Maple Ave etc corridor. I'm also not getting the rationale behind 403 unless the ridership has dropped that much - I recall the White Horse Pike corridor was always somewhat strong in transit usage.



Septa_kid	Sep 3 2009, 06:46 AM Post #5
flxie!!!! Posts: 2,040 Group: Members Member #2,467 Joined: March 31, 2008	probably because of the Broad and Vine intersection that causes every route that goes by there to be late



philabob1	Sep 4 2009, 09:22 PM Post #6
Advanced Transit Fan Posts: 463 Group: Members Member #640 Joined: June 15, 2007	Septa_kid Sep 3 2009, 06:46 AM probably because of the Broad and Vine intersection that causes every route that goes by there to be late I was getting some shots of the NABI's this afternoon and 3 403's were within 3 blocks of one another starting at 6th & Market at about 5:05. They are on 15-minute headways at that time of day and hadn't even gotten to the 'roadblock' at Broad & Vine (and two of them were running NABI's). Market St westbound is the source of many delays and it seems to be getting worse all the time - not sure why. I took the 62 on Monday from 8th St and we crawled up Market - found that some cars parked in the bus lane at the Marriott were the culprits, but the op told me it's something different every day.



Septa_kid	Sep 5 2009, 08:39 AM Post #7
flxie!!!! Posts: 2,040 Group: Members Member #2,467 Joined: March 31, 2008	philabob1 Sep 4 2009, 09:22 PM Septa_kid Sep 3 2009, 06:46 AM probably because of the Broad and Vine intersection that causes every route that goes by there to be late I was getting some shots of the NABI's this afternoon and 3 403's were within 3 blocks of one another starting at 6th & Market at about 5:05. They are on 15-minute headways at that time of day and hadn't even gotten to the 'roadblock' at Broad & Vine (and two of them were running NABI's). Market St westbound is the source of many delays and it seems to be getting worse all the time - not sure why. I took the 62 on Monday from 8th St and we crawled up Market - found that some cars parked in the bus lane at the Marriott were the culprits, but the op told me it's something different every day. sorry, i was talking about a different time if year. when school starts up, you'll see these "guards" at broad and vine telling people to stop even on green lights...



ctrabs74	Sep 6 2009, 11:52 AM Post #8
Advanced Transit Fan Posts: 710 Group: Members Member #7 Joined: February 20, 2005	Speaking of the 403, throughout the day yesterday, they were making announcements that the 403 was now boarding inside WRTC. I didn't realize they had exterior speakers at WRTC...



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