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OMFG,They're Here!; NABIs hit the road in South Jersey!
Topic Started: Aug 30 2009, 06:38 PM (1,985 Views)
Van2006ko Oct 18 2009, 08:32 AM Post #76
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 The ISL on our hybrids sounds way different then the ISL on both the 8000, 5600x, and the older hybrids. In 2007 they made changed to the ISL to make it sound way more quieter! If you listen to the 2008 DART Gilligs, which has the Cummins ISL, you would have sworn they have another kind of Cummins Engine.

The Information which I've posted was not a fragment of my nor someone else's imagination. It was directly from an official source.
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septa105R5 Oct 18 2009, 12:21 PM Post #77
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ctrabs74
Oct 18 2009, 01:30 AM
As reported in the sightings thread, the highest numbered NJT NABI that I saw was 5365 (sorry, didn't get a picture or vid shot). It does appear as though the ISL conversion did take place at 5346.

I did, however, get three video shots inside 5350, which appears to have the Cummins ISL and a ZF transmission - the transmission, though, sounds a hell of a lot different than SEPTA's 8000-series New Flyers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dehWzu_pEvg - Part 1 (Lindenwold Borough and past Clementon Park)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoFwdCXoDrM - Part 2 (Through Camden County College campus)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5ztshlIe58 - Part 3 (Turtle Creek HS to Washington Twp Garage)
I also got videos of NJT NABIs on 10/17/2009. To make this promotion, I got two sets of NJ Transit NABIs videos. Video set 1 is NJ Transit NABI 5340

Part 1 and 2 are videos that shown the bus is traveling down on Market Street:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAjZEe5Y_uI&feature=channelhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uqkw8DoIjQk

Part 3 shows that the bus is traveling in Vine Street.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmKY0hgEs-g&feature=channel

Part 4 is being uploaded.

The other part of the video (returning to Philly) will be uploaded.
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Van2006ko Oct 18 2009, 12:42 PM Post #78
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 Ridden on a 536x on the route 400 earlier today. The engine does sound a tad different, but as Ctrabs cited it sounded nothing like our ISLs. Needless the say, it's a completely different engine with different characteristics - the vibration was not as notable versus the earlier units as well... The ZF transmission shifts more like the ones on the earlier-NJT RTS, or better yet on the later-80s SEPTA Neoplans.
Edited by Van2006ko, Oct 18 2009, 04:25 PM.
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ctrabs74 Oct 18 2009, 06:22 PM Post #79
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 For what it's worth:

Before the NABIs were placed in service, Washington Township garage had 35 Flxible Metro Bs. As of now, according to Trevor Logan's roster at TransiTalk, only 3000, 3161, 3239, and 3269 are in service.

Washington Twp now has 5322-5365 (44 NABIs) with a few more reportedly being placed into service. I guess the next question would be how many MCIs will be pulled from Washington Twp and sent back north.
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septa105R5 Oct 24 2009, 11:38 AM Post #80
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Van2006ko
Oct 18 2009, 12:42 PM
Ridden on a 536x on the route 400 earlier today. The engine does sound a tad different, but as Ctrabs cited it sounded nothing like our ISLs. Needless the say, it's a completely different engine with different characteristics - the vibration was not as notable versus the earlier units as well... The ZF transmission shifts more like the ones on the earlier-NJT RTS, or better yet on the later-80s SEPTA Neoplans.
That's because there's modification of the engine to meet the EPA requirement leading the engine to known as Cummins ISL9. That engine was available this year to meet the EPA requirement for next year and I agree it sounded different than the Cummins ISL used on SEPTA's 2003-2005 New Flyer D40LF. Also wait until next year to hear how the engine sounds on the 2010 New Flyer DE41LF since it will be using it Cummins ISL9 too.
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Septa_kid Oct 26 2009, 09:43 AM Post #81
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flxie!!!!
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rider65
Oct 16 2009, 05:55 PM

I can't see the 401, 402, 408, or 410 getting them but you never know.
the 410 started getting random NABI runs don't ask why, but it happened
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Septa_kid Oct 26 2009, 09:47 AM Post #82
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 3000 (if it's still around) hasn't been in service for a while, i think it's being preserved
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Septa_kid Oct 29 2009, 11:54 AM Post #83
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 Washington Township is done, they got all the NABIs they need, Camden Garage (Newtown Ave) is next
Edited by Septa_kid, Oct 29 2009, 11:56 AM.
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septa105R5 Oct 30 2009, 04:58 PM Post #84
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Septa_kid
Oct 29 2009, 11:54 AM
Washington Township is done, they got all the NABIs they need, Camden Garage (Newtown Ave) is next
Are of their Flixible Metro B had have been replaced?
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Septa_kid Nov 3 2009, 11:21 AM Post #85
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 the Metro Bs are gone, if there is still one roaming around, chances are that that bus was reassigned to Newtown Ave
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Septa_kid Nov 3 2009, 12:11 PM Post #86
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flxie!!!!
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 oh, and Newtown Ave has 5367, 5368, and 5369
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Nabi60SFW9620 Nov 3 2009, 12:14 PM Post #87
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 I wonder how an ISL sounds on a NABI 416? I know it sounds like a more powerful ISC on the Gillig Phantom and Advantage and a quieter late 90s M11 on the New Flyer D40LF(R).
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Septa_kid Nov 3 2009, 12:32 PM Post #88
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 here's an outside video of a NABI 416, recoded yesterday.... the camera battery died so it's cut short

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B1fEbOrYRk
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septa105R5 Nov 5 2009, 08:23 PM Post #89
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Nabi60SFW9620
Nov 3 2009, 12:14 PM
I wonder how an ISL sounds on a NABI 416? I know it sounds like a more powerful ISC on the Gillig Phantom and Advantage and a quieter late 90s M11 on the New Flyer D40LF(R).
Here's one of my videos of the NJT's NABI equipped with Cummins ISL9 from the interior.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvhxiOrJ2dA
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buswizard Nov 6 2009, 08:55 AM Post #90
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^^^ My sister needs a copy
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 I have been seeing up to 4 NABIs in a row lately. Three on the 400 and some other one out of service as a training bus.
Edited by buswizard, Nov 6 2009, 08:55 AM.
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