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Septa Budget.; How is SEPTAs budget going?
Topic Started: Sep 2 2009, 06:45 AM (379 Views)
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How is SEPTAs budget going along with this recession? Are they financially struggling in any way or are surviving through the recession?
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The recession is primarily affecting SEPTA through loss of ridership due to layoffs and such. I don't believe SEPTA really gets much of its funding through sales taxes and such like other agencies out there.

However, SEPTA is affected by the state budget not being finalized as well as the impending doom of Act 44 if we can't toll I-80.

So, SEPTA is doing ok for now, but there are MAJOR concerns for the future as it could lose over 100 million dollars in funding next fiscal year.
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Is that going to cause drivers to be laid off?
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Ill probably wait until at least 2011 to put in a job application for a SEPTA bus operator position and if they are not struggling Im considering putting in an application. And if so then I will hold off. Since it is easier to get a job with the SEPTA then with Bmore MTA as a bus operator.
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Nabi60SFW9620
Sep 2 2009, 07:07 AM
Is that going to cause drivers to be laid off?
SEPTA's union instituted a no layoff clause. But you sure can bet there will be a hiring freeze if something happens
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According to SEPTA you dont even need a CDL permit to be hired with them. Bmore MTA you do need a CDL permit. But thats MD law. Pennsylvania isnt as strict as MD about CDL jobs.
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Nabi60SFW9620
Sep 2 2009, 09:01 AM
According to SEPTA you dont even need a CDL permit to be hired with them. Bmore MTA you do need a CDL permit. But thats MD law. Pennsylvania isnt as strict as MD about CDL jobs.
Not to be mean, but I doubt you'd last long as a SEPTA driver. Those seats might be too uncomfortable for you.
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Even though Im not too fond of the driver seats SEPTA uses Im sure Id survive with it. Plus one year they may upgrade the driver seat but at this point we dont know when. Im sure my desk chair has a shorter back rest then the driver seats on any of SEPTAs fleet. But Ill probably not apply until at least 2011 or 2012. Maybe later then that. Depending on when the recession ends. We all have differences on what we wish SEPTA would do different. Like many prefer they get DE41LFRs instead of DE41LFs. Some wish SEPTA would use tip in windows instead of the windows that dont open. I wish that since you never know when the AC will crap out.
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Nabi60SFW9620
Sep 2 2009, 09:01 AM
According to SEPTA you dont even need a CDL permit to be hired with them. Bmore MTA you do need a CDL permit. But thats MD law. Pennsylvania isnt as strict as MD about CDL jobs.
Also in Delaware DART. you do need a CDL permit. But thats Delaware state law also.
Edited by Geraldo Neoplan 3430, Sep 3 2009, 11:57 AM.
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Sep 2 2009, 02:48 PM
We all have differences on what we wish SEPTA would do different. Like many prefer they get DE41LFRs instead of DE41LFs. Some wish SEPTA would use tip in windows instead of the windows that dont open. I wish that since you never know when the AC will crap out.
I want those slider dealies like some older buses had... but the up down ones. not the side ways ones...

Also, i wish that SEPTA sorta held back on the hybrid order... there are many wrongs with it...

1. I understand that many people hate the NABIs and all, but not all of them need to be replaced so soon 5001 still had some life in it, and 5039 was running like new...

2. If SEPTA wants to 'save money' they shouldn't have made those new hybrids so slow... because of this. people are starting to buy their own cars again... (my mom said that she didn't like the "new buses" because they were too slow, when i told her that they were getting more, she decided to finally tune up her van)

3. SEPTA should NOT have made it so that the signs go dim in bright light! Because of this, the signs are harder to read! People at Neshaminy had a hard time figuring out the route of the buses because the signs were too dim!

this hybrid order is making me lean more toward NJT for fanning... since the hybrids are pretty much bad in every way... even people working at Comly agreed with me, which might explain why they didn't have anything to do with the the regular batch of 09s like was planned (they were supposed to get enough to wipe out the current NABIS and the NFI diesels would have been sent elsewhere)
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Good grief, NJT is barely any better! Once the NABIs are all in, they will be the ONLY bus (other than MCIs and the Neoplans up North) that NJT will operate. Nowadays its fun, but soon...yuck!
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I want those slider dealies like some older buses had... but the up down ones. not the side ways ones...


Are you talking about the ones similar to what's on school buses?! Yike...

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because of this. people are starting to buy their own cars again... (my mom said that she didn't like the "new buses" because they were too slow, when i told her that they were getting more, she decided to finally tune up her van)


Hmm an expensive alternative!

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even people working at Comly agreed with me, which might explain why they didn't have anything to do with the the regular batch of 09s like was planned (they were supposed to get enough to wipe out the current NABIS and the NFI diesels would have been sent elsewhere)


If that would be the case, then I can angrily thank them for sending them to Allegheny so that ALL of ZFers are gone and there's nothing but slowbrids on the 27... ugh! The 27 used to be a fantastic route to ride ZFers...now, no more! :(
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Well... If you had the choice to either ride a TA with majority of buses from a company that you like... or ride a TA with 100% buses from one company... and with 40% of those buses being very slow... which would you choose? (that's right i actually was a NABI person before i knew that NJT was getting new ones) and with NJT, they're not getting ONLY 416.15s, they're getting other models as well, unlike SEPTA... the only model that looks different is the small fleet of ETBs and the soon to retire buses...

BTW, my mom isn't the only one, there's alot of people who live along Cottman who did the same thing and my friend in Manyunk said that her dad just got a new car... it's sad but true: with the direction that SEPTA is going in, they will be out of business soon.....

Oh, and the whole Comly deal might explain Alleghenys "unexpected" new hybrids....
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You are right. NJT is getting other versions of the NABIs - a 32 foot low floor and a 45 foot low floor...lol.

I'd take the latter choice, by the way. Don't worry, SEPTA won't go out of business...it's a gov't funded agency, anyway. Plus, getting around on transit is still the "best" way to go in the city.
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You are right. NJT is getting other versions of the NABIs - a 32 foot low floor and a 45 foot low floor...lol.
the NABI 45C doesn't look anything like the NABI 416.... which was my point....
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