Southern Depot Receiving Trackless Trolley Wire Work

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Southern Depot Receiving Trackless Trolley Wire Work
Topic Started: Oct 8 2009, 09:27 AM (689 Views)
SouthernSeptaRida215	Oct 8 2009, 09:27 AM Post #1
Southern Depot PTV Co-Leader & Correspondent. Posts: 369 Group: Members Member #2,708 Joined: July 5, 2009	Not to much info Right now but Septafan has spotted Overhead Wire Workers repairing existing Trackless Trolley wire in the back of Southern Depot. Looks like Septa has plans to restore the Rt. 79 and/or the Rt. 29. Attached to this post: Wire_Work___Southern.jpg (66.55 KB)



buswizard	Oct 8 2009, 09:39 AM Post #2
^^^ My sister needs a copy Posts: 1,647 Group: Members Member #2,659 Joined: September 22, 2008	i hope they do it. route 79 maybe?



ctrabs74	Oct 8 2009, 10:21 AM Post #3
Advanced Transit Fan Posts: 710 Group: Members Member #7 Joined: February 20, 2005	79 would seem as the likely choice, considering the 29 has been extended "off-wire" onto Pier 70 ... that's IF it were to happen (and, considering the SEPTA Board's hostility towards Southern trackless, that's a BIG if)... That said, I would like to see tracklesses return on the 79 in the long term; I still remain sceptical given the way things are at SEPTA.



Rt 75 All Day	Oct 8 2009, 05:41 PM Post #4
Occasional Rider Posts: 20 Group: Members Member #2,721 Joined: September 24, 2009	I Hope Its Goin 2 B On Both Routes And On The 79 They Should Fix The Wires And On The 29They Should Fix The Wires & Extend Wires To Pier 70



TRANSIT_FREAK	Oct 8 2009, 06:44 PM Post #5
Simpsonized! Posts: 2,647 Group: Members Member #865 Joined: August 2, 2007	The whole Idea of replacing route 79 is just crazy why just bring back the 79 and not the 29?



Tritransit Area	Oct 8 2009, 06:56 PM Post #6
Transit Enthusiast Posts: 2,243 Group: Admin Member #4 Joined: February 17, 2005	TRANSIT_FREAK Oct 8 2009, 06:44 PM The whole Idea of replacing route 79 is just crazy why just bring back the 79 and not the 29? Politics. Heaven forbid the line exists as a diesel line... The 29's issue lies in Pier 70, as well as its Western end, where the wires were taken down as well. Taking the 29 away from Pier 70 would not be a wise move at all, but the owners refuse to allow wires there.



SouthernSeptaRida215	Oct 8 2009, 08:51 PM Post #7
Southern Depot PTV Co-Leader & Correspondent. Posts: 369 Group: Members Member #2,708 Joined: July 5, 2009	Well right now Septafan asked the Overhead Wire crew if they were taking down the Trackless Trolley Wires, all they said "NO". But lets not jump to speculation now. There is still LOTS of work to be done. I guess SEPTA is smart for once and actually working on Southern DEPOT itself instead of fixing the Route's 29/79 Wires, which most likely means Southern is going to house ETBs again. But as of today I went down to the depot to inspect the wires, they got some work done where Wires now reach Bays 2-4 visible from 20th Street side near Moyamensing. Still lots of work to be done around Southern Depot, but for now we just have to wait for an official word. I'll still be checking Southern Depot weekly to see how the overhead wire crews progress. So I have some pics and some from Septafan some of the pics look the same but some are his and some are mine. Attached to this post: TT_Wires___Southern.jpg (469.95 KB) TT_Wires___Southern__1_.jpg (456.82 KB) TT_Wires___Southern__2_.jpg (445.97 KB)



TransitChuckG	Oct 9 2009, 08:34 AM Post #8
Foamer Posts: 1,601 Group: Members Member #15 Joined: February 24, 2005	Let's not get our hopes up, until we hear something official that Southern wants trackless back. To make it practical, both the 29 & 79 would have to be restored and not just the 79. And Pier 70 does not want wires on their property. There are too many strikes against it now. Sorry to be so skeptical. I can 't understand why they are fixing wires at Southern depot. Chuck



IkarusFan	Oct 9 2009, 11:49 AM Post #9
Let The Legacy of The Bricks Live On!!! Posts: 182 Group: Members Member #2,628 Joined: June 19, 2008	TransitChuckG Oct 9 2009, 08:34 AM Let's not get our hopes up, until we hear something official that Southern wants trackless back. To make it practical, both the 29 & 79 would have to be restored and not just the 79. And Pier 70 does not want wires on their property. There are too many strikes against it now. Sorry to be so skeptical. I can 't understand why they are fixing wires at Southern depot. Chuck I can't understand it either. :-/



Frankford5905	Oct 9 2009, 05:55 PM Post #10
Advanced Transit Fan Posts: 233 Group: Admin Member #2 Joined: February 16, 2005	Fixing the wires is just a waste of money, the 29 and 79 are done!!!



CACrafter88bk2504	Oct 10 2009, 06:01 AM Post #11
Transit Historian Posts: 1,324 Group: Members Member #51 Joined: November 10, 2005	Please don't say that.



SouthernSeptaRida215	Oct 10 2009, 08:46 AM Post #12
Southern Depot PTV Co-Leader & Correspondent. Posts: 369 Group: Members Member #2,708 Joined: July 5, 2009	Listen to what you just said "The 29 & 79 are done" meaning they will permanently bustituted. But Septa said "These routes will be "Temporary" Bustituted" and the word temporary don't mean its going to come back next month or the year after. It means Septa needs time to work their plans. And it will happen but it will take time. Listen Septa didn't execute the option for the extra 23 probably because at the time they were primarily focused on the Northeast Trackless Trolley. Now with some Barack Obama Stimulus we've seen Septa execute an extra 40 buses for the 09 Hybrid batch. Right now it looks like Septa is working on Southern Trackless Trolley Infrastructure to bring them back. Because if Septa was really hostile against Southern and Trackless they would take down the wires to make it official but no they don't.



IkarusFan	Oct 10 2009, 09:23 AM Post #13
Let The Legacy of The Bricks Live On!!! Posts: 182 Group: Members Member #2,628 Joined: June 19, 2008	SouthernSeptaRida215 Oct 10 2009, 08:46 AM Listen to what you just said "The 29 & 79 are done" meaning they will permanently bustituted. But Septa said "These routes will be "Temporary" Bustituted" and the word temporary don't mean its going to come back next month or the year after. It means Septa needs time to work their plans. And it will happen but it will take time. Listen Septa didn't execute the option for the extra 23 probably because at the time they were primarily focused on the Northeast Trackless Trolley. Now with some Barack Obama Stimulus we've seen Septa execute an extra 40 buses for the 09 Hybrid batch. Right now it looks like Septa is working on Southern Trackless Trolley Infrastructure to bring them back. Because if Septa was really hostile against Southern and Trackless they would take down the wires to make it official but no they don't. I agree with you. Of all the times I've been on both the 29 and the 79, it's just doesn't have the feel those routes once had before 2003.



Frankford5905	Oct 10 2009, 08:34 PM Post #14
Advanced Transit Fan Posts: 233 Group: Admin Member #2 Joined: February 16, 2005	I won't be sitting around waiting for 23 additional trackless trolleys that will never be delivered for 2 lines that will never see a trackless again. I would've loved to have seen trackless trolleys operate out of southern once more but i also have no problem facing the truth. SEPTA will not be ordering any trackless trolleys for the 29 and 79!!!!!



TransitChuckG	Oct 12 2009, 06:02 PM Post #15
Foamer Posts: 1,601 Group: Members Member #15 Joined: February 24, 2005	What should happen is SEPTA get some Artic-trackless for the 66 , and send the spare coaches down to Southern. But we know what will not happen....... I rode Artic-trackless in San Francisco this summer, pretty wild. They were on the 49-Van Ness line.



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