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Artic Routes
Topic Started: Oct 13 2009, 08:07 PM (988 Views)
Rt 75 All Day	Oct 13 2009, 08:07 PM Post #1
Occasional Rider Posts: 20 Group: Members Member #2,721 Joined: September 24, 2009	I Been Seeing Some SEPTA Rts That Need To Become Artics Because Overcrowdness There Are Rts That Are Artics And There are Rts That Aren't I Think That Rts That Should Be Artics Are:1,6,8,9,14,18,20,22,26,27,33,48,50,54,55,60,65,80,C,R Do You Thinks Some of These Rts Should Be or Shouldn't be.



SouthernSeptaRida215	Oct 13 2009, 08:24 PM Post #2
Southern Depot PTV Co-Leader & Correspondent. Posts: 369 Group: Members Member #2,708 Joined: July 5, 2009	I think the Rt. 77, 35, 310, 402 and the 316 A.K.A L.U.C.Y, also the Rt. 91 these routes are heavy hitters that I think these Routes will need 45 second headways during Rush Hour where should be ran with Neoplan Articulated.



Rt 75 All Day	Oct 13 2009, 08:26 PM Post #3
Occasional Rider Posts: 20 Group: Members Member #2,721 Joined: September 24, 2009	Are You Sure Cuz These Routes are Usually Eldarados



Jayayess1190	Oct 13 2009, 08:55 PM Post #4
Foamer Posts: 1,088 Group: Members Member #42 Joined: September 2, 2005	:blink: 6, 9, 14, 18, 22, 26, 48, 55, 60 65, 80, C already use artics, where have you been? They can't be 100% artic due to there not enough Neo's to go around, and they don't always need one 100% of the time. Edited by Jayayess1190, Oct 13 2009, 08:59 PM.



TRANSIT_FREAK	Oct 13 2009, 09:07 PM Post #5
Simpsonized! Posts: 2,646 Group: Members Member #865 Joined: August 2, 2007	SouthernSeptaRida215 Oct 13 2009, 08:24 PM I think the Rt. 77, 35, 310, 402 and the 316 A.K.A L.U.C.Y, also the Rt. 91 these routes are heavy hitters that I think these Routes will need 45 second headways during Rush Hour where should be ran with Neoplan Articulated. I think your way over your head. ^o)



CACrafter88bk2504	Oct 14 2009, 07:54 AM Post #6
Transit Historian Posts: 1,324 Group: Members Member #51 Joined: November 10, 2005	TRANSIT_FREAK Oct 13 2009, 09:07 PM SouthernSeptaRida215 Oct 13 2009, 08:24 PM I think the Rt. 77, 35, 310, 402 and the 316 A.K.A L.U.C.Y, also the Rt. 91 these routes are heavy hitters that I think these Routes will need 45 second headways during Rush Hour where should be ran with Neoplan Articulated. I think your way over your head. ^o) Let's be realistic. There are times along routes 35 where ridership patterns are so small that all you would need is a pick up truck to pick up the few riders that are out there on the corners. The 310: Let the 310 become incorporated into the 55 and that will solve this issue. No more 310. Trips would be designated as 55:HORSHAM via WILLOW GROVE.



CACrafter88bk2504	Oct 14 2009, 07:57 AM Post #7
Transit Historian Posts: 1,324 Group: Members Member #51 Joined: November 10, 2005	The 91? Simply make it on an hourly headway on Saturdays. Interestingly, I think that Frontier actually has the space to house at least 10 units.



buswizard	Oct 14 2009, 08:36 AM Post #8
^^^ My sister needs a copy Posts: 1,647 Group: Members Member #2,659 Joined: September 22, 2008	Nobody said the 17. that is a worthy artic candidate. So is the 109.



Tritransit Area	Oct 14 2009, 08:44 AM Post #9
Transit Enthusiast Posts: 2,242 Group: Admin Member #4 Joined: February 17, 2005	CACrafter88bk2504 Oct 14 2009, 07:54 AM The 310: Let the 310 become incorporated into the 55 and that will solve this issue. No more 310. Trips would be designated as 55:HORSHAM via WILLOW GROVE. No, for these reasons: 1) Not everyone takes the 55. There are people that come off the 22, the R2, and even the 98 to transfer to the 310. 2) The 55 is unreliable. The bus is consistently late! 3) Higher operating costs? The ridership during the midday and Saturday is fairly low. What would be the point of running big route 55 buses at this time? In regards to the 310, why did I see Champion Defenders running on the line? The route is OVERCROWDED! I hope they aren't putting it on the 8:27 departure from the mall....that needs at least a 40 footer!



Septa_kid	Oct 14 2009, 11:13 AM Post #10
flxie!!!! Posts: 2,040 Group: Members Member #2,467 Joined: March 31, 2008	ROUTES 56, and 70 NEED ARTICS DURRING RUSH HOUR!!! THEY'RE TOO CROWDED!



buswizard	Oct 14 2009, 11:14 AM Post #11
^^^ My sister needs a copy Posts: 1,647 Group: Members Member #2,659 Joined: September 22, 2008	Tritransit Area Oct 14 2009, 08:44 AM No, for these reasons: 1) Not everyone takes the 55. There are people that come off the 22, the R2, and even the 98 to transfer to the 310. 2) The 55 is unreliable. The bus is consistently late! 3) Higher operating costs? The ridership during the midday and Saturday is fairly low. What would be the point of running big route 55 buses at this time? 4) ...Route 80!!!!!!!!!!



frankl3217	Oct 14 2009, 11:38 AM Post #12
Advanced Transit Fan Posts: 176 Group: Members Member #762 Joined: July 11, 2007	in my opinion, routes 7, 47, 23, 17, 52 ,G can use artics



ctrabs74	Oct 14 2009, 12:14 PM Post #13
Advanced Transit Fan Posts: 710 Group: Members Member #7 Joined: February 20, 2005	I could see artics - if not full-time, but at least on a majority of trips - on the 17, 52, 70, and the R. One route that didn't get mentioned is the 40. Sometimes, that can get a little crowded, at least between Conshohocken/Ford and 40 St El Station. Do you really want to try putting an artic on the 23? Those snakes would have a hell of a time getting up the hill.



Tritransit Area	Oct 14 2009, 02:35 PM Post #14
Transit Enthusiast Posts: 2,242 Group: Admin Member #4 Joined: February 17, 2005	ctrabs74 Oct 14 2009, 12:14 PM Do you really want to try putting an artic on the 23? Those snakes would have a hell of a time getting up the hill. True, but they ran for 10 years on the 9, 27, and 65 without severe problems for the most part. They'd be rather slow in general on the 23, though.



Tritransit Area	Oct 14 2009, 02:37 PM Post #15
Transit Enthusiast Posts: 2,242 Group: Admin Member #4 Joined: February 17, 2005	buswizard Oct 14 2009, 11:14 AM 4) ...Route 80!!!!!!!!!! Thank you - that's the most important reason! By the way, they should really look into adjusting the times for the 80, adding another AM and PM trip after the current end of service. Those El Dorados get PACKED on specific trips (I can easily point them out) and an extra 80 bus would solve the problem. I cringe as I imagine that some of the Champions might be carrying those huge passenger loads right now.



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