Official decision reguarding Baltimore MTAs 9600s.

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Official decision reguarding Baltimore MTAs 9600s.; NIMCO
Topic Started: Oct 22 2009, 09:57 AM (94 Views)
Nabi60SFW9620	Oct 22 2009, 09:57 AM Post #1
Foamer Posts: 2,129 Group: Members Member #10 Joined: February 21, 2005	There have been many decisions reguarding the 9600 Series NABI Articulated buses. Some plans involved sending them to OC. Some involved keeping them in service until they are no longer driveable. However. The official decision has been made with those buses. They will be retired from the MTA Roster this January as they are costing money to maintain. Unfortunetely Ocean City does not want them either for the same reason. So the official decision is that they will be retired from the Roster this January and sent off to NIMCO to be salvaged. So when the 9600s are retired from the MTA Roster they will no longer be operating. Ocean Citys summer Articulated use. Either they will have to survive without Articulated buses. MTA will start lending New Flyer DE60LFRs to OC in the summer. Or OC will have to purchase used Articulated buses from other TAs. Hopefully not borrow DE60LFRs from the MTA since service gets messed up in the summer time with 10 Articulated buses down in OC.



Tritransit Area	Oct 22 2009, 05:46 PM Post #2
Transit Enthusiast Posts: 2,242 Group: Admin Member #4 Joined: February 17, 2005	Those 9600s are problematic? I'm sorry I never got to ride one - they seem to only run in the heaviest of rush hour, anyway



Nabi60SFW9620	Oct 22 2009, 06:06 PM Post #3
Foamer Posts: 2,129 Group: Members Member #10 Joined: February 21, 2005	Im hoping Ocean City will be able to purchase their own Articulated buses so MTA can still have them in the summer. Especially when that time of year HVACs are known to malfunction and MTA cannot run the 08000 series or 09000 series coaches when the HVAC doesnt work in the summer time due to the tip in windows. They do good with circulation in the spring and fall. But the summer the circulation isnt as good. And the winter. Theres no need to have windows opened. So hopefully MTA will not lend any of the DE60LFRs to OC in the summer. Im hoping they consider writing a letter to other major TA General managers to see if they have any Articulated buses that can be sent to OC. Especially John Catoe since WMATA is suppose to be replacing the NABI 436s sometime in the near future. Ocean City would be a good place for ex WMATA Articulated buses to continue their lifespan.



IkarusFan	Oct 24 2009, 07:19 PM Post #4
Let The Legacy of The Bricks Live On!!! Posts: 182 Group: Members Member #2,628 Joined: June 19, 2008	I knew the CTA had problems with their 60ft Bricks, but MTA Maryland, too? OUCH.



Nabinut	Oct 24 2009, 09:09 PM Post #5
Commuter Posts: 38 Group: Members Member #64 Joined: February 10, 2006	IkarusFan Oct 24 2009, 07:19 PM I knew the CTA had problems with their 60ft Bricks, but MTA Maryland, too? OUCH. The 9600s aren't as bad as the poster has suggested. These buses were assigned to two lines for nearly 7 years then assigned to the worst line in the system and given a minor overhaul which proved to hasten their retirement. I rode one on wednesday and it is worn down but still very much in decent condition



IkarusFan	Oct 26 2009, 04:49 PM Post #6
Let The Legacy of The Bricks Live On!!! Posts: 182 Group: Members Member #2,628 Joined: June 19, 2008	Nabinut Oct 24 2009, 09:09 PM IkarusFan Oct 24 2009, 07:19 PM I knew the CTA had problems with their 60ft Bricks, but MTA Maryland, too? OUCH. The 9600s aren't as bad as the poster has suggested. These buses were assigned to two lines for nearly 7 years then assigned to the worst line in the system and given a minor overhaul which proved to hasten their retirement. I rode one on wednesday and it is worn down but still very much in decent condition That's good to hear.



Jayayess1190	Oct 26 2009, 05:10 PM Post #7
Foamer Posts: 1,088 Group: Members Member #42 Joined: September 2, 2005	IkarusFan Oct 26 2009, 04:49 PM Nabinut Oct 24 2009, 09:09 PM IkarusFan Oct 24 2009, 07:19 PM I knew the CTA had problems with their 60ft Bricks, but MTA Maryland, too? OUCH. The 9600s aren't as bad as the poster has suggested. These buses were assigned to two lines for nearly 7 years then assigned to the worst line in the system and given a minor overhaul which proved to hasten their retirement. I rode one on wednesday and it is worn down but still very much in decent condition That's good to hear. Very true, they are good to hear! ;)



Nabi60SFW9620	Oct 27 2009, 02:32 PM Post #8
Foamer Posts: 2,129 Group: Members Member #10 Joined: February 21, 2005	The 9600s were built in 1997. So they are 12 years old. And with the condition of Baltimores streets. Its no wonder why they are having all kinds of problems with them. I dont know if its all of Baltimore City but downtown Baltimore alot of the streets are being resurfaced. Then I dislike the fact they retrofitted Voith transmissions on the NABI 436s. Either they should have stayed with ZF Echomat or get retrofit to Allison B500R. MTA put a weak transmission on the NABI Articulated buses. Now for Ocean Citys Articulated summer use. Either they will have to survive without Articulated buses. Or continue borrowing them from the MTA. I wonder if John Catoe would ever consider sending NABI 436s to Ocean City. I believe WMATA is suppose to be replacing their NABI 436s sometime in the near future. 22 of them I believe were already replaced with NABI 60BRTs. And the rest should be replaced by New Flyer DE62LFAs. Ex WMATA NABI 436s would make a good choice for Ocean Citys Inlet Del Line and Contingency buses for the MTA. Since who knows when MTAs going to encounter another wheel problem with the Light Rail with the way they lack preventative maintenance. Last time they encountered a wheel incident with the Light Rail many local bus especially peak runs had to be left missing as buses were needed to shuttle Light Rail passengers from North Ave to Hunt Valley and they dont have enough buses to do both a Light Rail shuttle for half the line and the entire local bus system. So durinig that week many local runs were missing out of Bush, Eastern, and Northwest.



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